Beware the King of the North in Daniel 11


Daniel chapter 11 highlights the exploits of two of the kings/kingdoms that arose out of the broken Greek Empire.  They are called the king of the North (Syria/Lebanon/Turkey/Iraq/Iran) and the king of the South (Egypt/Libya/Sudan).  It is here that we find the geographic location of the Antichrist’s rise to power.

Daniel 11 says the Antichrist will become the king of the North kingdom when he steps up into power.  Biblical action between the two kings of the North and South doesn’t resume until the Antichrist is king of the North kingdom at the time of the end.

“At the time of the end, the king of the south shall attack him, but the king of the north shall rush upon him like a whirlwind, with chariots and horsemen, and with many ships. And he shall come into countries and shall overflow and pass through. [Dan 11:40 ESV]

Can we really know that the king of the North is referring to the future Antichrist?  In verse 36, during the transition from Antiochus Epiphanes (the near fulfillment of the prophecy) to the Antichrist (the far fulfillment), it says:

“And the king shall do as he wills…” [Dan 11:36 ESV]

Which king?  The king of the North.  Verse 15 identifies him as the king of the North and the use of the definite article “the” keeps the focus on him into verse 36.  This means the future willful king (Antichrist) will be the king of the North.

When the action between these two kingdoms continues at the time of the end, the king of the South will attack the king of the North.  Daniel 12:11 seems to suggest there will be a period of three years and seven months from chapter 11 verse 31 to verse 45, the ruin of the Antichrist.

It is my belief that we are somewhere around the knees of iron on King Nebuchadnezzar’s Statue [Daniel 2].  We are somewhere near the latter part of chapter 11.

These things deserve further study, taking into account why God curiously describes the king of Tyre in Scripture as Satan [Eze 28:19].  Tyre is located in modern-day Lebanon.  Apparently, Lebanon used to be part of this Syrian empire.  Interestingly, another similar description concerns the king of Babylon [Isa 14:12-21].  Revelation 2:13 also names Pergamum, Turkey as the location of Satan’s throne.  I believe all of these references add additional Scriptural support to the idea of the Middle East as the geographic location of the Antichrist’s kingdom.

Seleucid and Ptolemic Empire 200 BC(click to zoom)

Can you picture a European Atheist rising to power in this region of the world? Didn’t think so. I’m afraid that, as our attention is focused on Europe and we try to revive a dead empire, we will be blindsided for lack of knowledge of what the Word may actually be teaching.

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20 comments

  1. Very intriguing brother Jon.

    • indeed, brother.

      i find it interesting that shortly after Libya began revolting, the US was supporting Turkey to invade. this shows that the kingdom of the north is almost ready to come south [Daniel 11:40] however it’s not yet time. according to Scripture, the Antichrist must be the leader of this north kingdom first.

      it will be interesting to see what happens in that area over the next couple of years.

    • hi Charles. though I am still considering that Obama may be a Muslim, scripture suggests in Daniel 11 that the Antichrist will rise as king of the North which is modern day Turkey/Syria/Lebanon. According to scripture, the desire of women is for their husband to rule over them, that is, to love them as Christ loves the Church [Genesis 3:16; Ephesians 5:25]. This is something that Sharia Law completely disregards to the extent of physical abuse toward wives. The Antichrist will rise to power in the Middle East. I do not believe Obama is the Antichrist.

  2. Daniel 11:43
    But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt; and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.

    http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/03/02/wsjnbc-poll-obama-doing-ok-on-egypt-libya/

    Revelation 13:13
    And he shows great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to earth in the sight of men

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/21/us-obama-predator-drones-libya

    Daniel 8:25
    And through his policy he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart,

    http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=295369

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/aug/20/obama-muslim-ground-zero-mosque

    Daniel 11:38
    But instead he will honor a god of fortresses, a god whom his fathers did not know; he will honor him with gold, silver, costly stones and treasures.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/obama-protectionism-close-to-home/story-e6frg6ux-1226162450462

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/11/14/us-asia-obama-risks-idUSTRE6AD0RE20101114

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123327825979431593.html

    Daniel 11:21
    And in his place shall stand up a contemptible person, to whom they had not given the honor of the kingdom: but he shall come in time of security, and shall obtain the kingdom by flatteries.

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/03/18/the-ramifications-of-an-illegitimate-president/

    http://obamashopeandchange.com/

    • i am glad for astute watchmen such as yourself, Charles. but consider that every nation the Lord does battle with upon His return is listed by name in the pages of prophetic Scripture and is currently located in the Middle East and occupied by Islam.

  3. America was colonized by Europeans, who were of the Roman Empire.
    America extends as far north as Alaska and the Arctic Circle. The U.S. presidency is the most powerful seat in the northern hemisphere.

    • hi Charles. again, if you read through Daniel chapter 11, you will discover that the king of the North comes to be described as the Antichrist around verse 36. the territory that the king of the North rules is modern-day Syria/Lebanon/Turkey. this is where the Antichrist will rise to power. the so-called “Arab Spring” we are witnessing is the beginning of the formation of the the Antichrist’s future kingdom — a new Islamic Caliphate led by Turkey. Eventually, Turkey will clash with Egypt just as it says in Daniel 11. in fact, it almost happened already.

      i have written about Daniel 11 in three places. here are two short articles, Beware the King of the North in Daniel 11 and Will the North Kingdom in Daniel chapter 11 soon be reformed?

      here’s a longer, much more detailed article, Daniel’s 4th Beast Isn’t Rome.

      Also, consider that John was taken into the wilderness in the Book of Revelation:

      And he carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness, and I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was full of blasphemous names, and it had seven heads and ten horns.
      [Revelation 17:3 ESV]

      the beast is named Babylon (verse 5). the question to consider is, does the Bible tell us where the wilderness is? the answer is, yes, it does, in Isaiah 21. it is an oracle about Babylon.

      The oracle concerning the wilderness of the sea. As whirlwinds in the Negeb sweep on, it comes from the wilderness, from a terrible land.
      [Isaiah 21:1 ESV]

      it seems the sea would be the Persian Gulf beside which Babylon resides. it turns out that the geographic location of the future Babylon is actually where Babylon has always been. it is not Rome. it is not America.

      I encourage you to digest these things and tell me what you think.

  4. Greetings in Jesus;
    I understand your thoughts. These are very important questions. I What you are speaking of (uprisings) are countries that this current leader is influencing:

    http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/9612-president-obamas-role-in-the-arab-spring

    http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2011/10/more_unintended.php

    The U.S. is currently involved in Iraq and Afghanistan.
    Babylon is located in Iraq; is that the “mystery” that the Lord is speaking of?
    If Iraq wasto fulfil the criteria of “Babylon” spoken of in the book of Revelation, it would take decades to build it nevermind having to become a trading center of the world.
    Why did the Lord say “fallen, fallen..” in describing the city of Babylon? He said it twice.

    Did you read the description of Daniel 11;37?
    Why does it read “his fathers”, as if the Lord is distancing Himself from this individual? Wouldn’t He have said “your fathers” when addressing His children? What religion could it be in which the individual spoken of would be regarded as an “apostate”? Which religion does this man claim to not “honor” and instead follows another? Revelation 20:4 states “And I saw the souls of those who were BEHEADED for the testimony of Jesus(christians?) and for the Word of God(Jews?).” An obvious clue?

    http://www.google.ca/#pq=revelation+20%3B4&hl=en&cp=20&gs_id=27&xhr=t&q=Obama+muslim+youtube&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&source=hp&pbx=1&oq=Obama+muslim+youtube&aq=0&aqi=g1g-v1g-j2&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=e51e149f27720169&biw=1140&bih=537

    I wish no ill will and would like to speak only good things about our leaders, however facts are facts. Please pardon the “copy, paste”. This info would not have been available as it is, without the web. I am grateful to God for having the priviledge of sharing these thoughts with you.
    Consider this, and may God bless you richly and keep you.
    Lets prepare our hearts,
    Jesus is coming soon!!

    • i don’t think is beyond reason to believe that as the new Islamic Caliphate is formed, Babylon will once again be a leading cultural and economic center.

      hey, this might be interesting for you to review. i’m not necessarily a fan of Mr. Beck, he just lays it out quite nicely…

      ALSO, you may want to take a trek through Walid Shoebat’s End Times Today episodes. very interesting.

      Daniel 11:37-38…

      He shall pay no attention to the gods of his fathers, or to the one beloved by women. He shall not pay attention to any other god, for he shall magnify himself above all. He shall honor the god of fortresses instead of these. A god whom his fathers did not know he shall honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and costly gifts.
      [Dan 11:37-38 ESV]

      of course, you know i believe the Antichrist will arise from the the religion of Islam. he will turn his back on the god of his fathers because he will eventually claim to be God and demand to be worshiped [Daniel 11:36]. he will honor a “god” of power and military might (a god of fortresses). an idol.

      and yes, there’s only one religion that is actively seeking to behead Christians and Jews – Islam.

      there’s no doubt that Obama has Islam in his background and is friendly toward the religion. i do have a sneaking suspicion that he is a Muslim. the belief and practice of Takkiya allows a Muslim to lie if it will contribute to the advancing of Islam. so, if he says he isn’t, it doesn’t amount to much.

  5. The AS version and King James editions read Daniel 11:37 as such:

    American King James Version
    Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

    American Standard Version
    Neither shall he regard the gods of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god; for he shall magnify himself above all.

    I dont know who inserted “the One”, but it is not in the original text. Similarily the Catholic version uses the term “lust” instead of “desire”, which makes as much sense as saying that not honoring the “desire of women” means this man is inclined towards perversion. I have pondered this verse for many years, having made no sense of it until the last election. It is an important verse. It identifies this individual in specific terms.
    The issues raised during the election and campaign, and issues that continue to follow this man can be found in the book of Daniel.
    We need to consider the description of Babylon fully, because the events that occured Sept. 11, 2001 match this description, as does the destruction, catalouging of commodities and subsequent reactions. We also need to realize that the apostle John viewed what he was seeing in the only terms available to him, as did Daniel.
    I have studied these verses, and have watched the rise of this man.
    Convincing is no longer required. The evidence included in my last 2 posts cannot be merely coincidence. Many people are of the impression that someone will rise from Europe. Is this a stumbling block?
    There is no possible way that Iraq itself could possibly meet the criteria for “Babylon”, unless another “Babylon” was intended.

    There are just too many coincidences pointing in the same direction at the same time.

    • I’m glad we can dialogue about these things.

      Daniel 11:37 tells us the Antichrist will not regard his fathers’ god/s because he will declare himself to be God. It also tells us he will not regard the desire of women. What is the desire of women?

      To the woman He said, “I will greatly multiply Your pain in childbirth, In pain you will bring forth children; Yet your desire will be for your husband, And he will rule over you.”
      [Genesis 3:16 NASB]

      God tells Eve that her desire will be for her husband who will rule over her. He specifically explains just how a husband should rule over his wife in the New Testament.

      Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her,
      [Ephesians 5:25 NASB]

      Islamic Sharia Law teaches men it is their right to abuse their wives. Islam disregards a woman’s desire for her husband and how husbands are to love their wives as Christ loved the church.

      Daniel 11:37 in the ESV reads,

      He shall pay no attention to the gods of his fathers, or to the one beloved by women. He shall not pay attention to any other god, for he shall magnify himself above all.
      [Daniel 11:37 ESV]

      This translation is saying that he will not regard the god of women either. In most translations, this part about women is between two segments talking about gods as though it is referring to a god of women. Most translations also use the word “other” or “others” before “god” to support this interpretation. The question is which is the correct translation? Interestingly, a woman-god can be found in Jeremiah 7:17-18, 44:17-19 & 44:25. She is an Assyrian and Babylonian goddess called the Queen of Heaven also known as Ishtar, Ashtoreth or Astarte (see Declaring the End from the Beginning). Daniel was writing while in captivity in Babylon. If he is making reference to the Queen of Heaven, it is further suggestive that the Antichrist will be of Middle-Eastern origin.

      I must mention that some interpret this verse as meaning the Antichrist will be a homosexual having no desire for women. I don’t believe an in-depth study of the verse reveals this. (see The Antichrist: European Aristocrat or Middle Eastern Muslim? Part 2)

      Also, I don’t believe Scripture allows for America to be Babylon and here’s why. Let’s look at Revelation 17:8:

      The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to rise from the bottomless pit and go to destruction. And the dwellers on earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world will marvel to see the beast, because it was and is not and is to come. [Rev 17:8 ESV]

      The kingdom in power at the time of John’s writing was Rome. Since John tells us the beast was and is not, we can remove Rome from the list. John is saying that the revived kingdom will not be Rome, it will be one of the previous five – a kingdom that was (Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece). I can’t reiterate this enough so here it is again: one of the kingdoms that was will come again, not the one that is at the time of John’s writing. He uses the same sort of language to tell us again in Revelation 17:11. Since Revelation says it is Babylon that will be revived, there’s no reason not to take it literally since Babylon is indeed included in the list of previous kingdoms in the Book of Daniel. (see Will the Revived Kingdom Really Be Rome?)

      • Consider, Babylon’s destruction is complete and happens within one literal day [Revelation 18:8, Zechariah 14:6]. when Babylon is destroyed, nothing will ever come out of her again [Revelation 18:21-23]. one reason 9/11 does not fulfill this Scripture is because America is still here 11 years later.

  6. Do you consider this suspicious?

    What do you think?
    Should a christian refer to the koran as “holy”, and quote it as such?

    • yes. it is certainly suspicious. and conspicuous. i think we can safely conclude from the study of God’s Word that Obama’s words and actions are not consistent with one who follows Jesus Christ. we can tell who loves Jesus by their fruits [Matthew 7:16]. and i do think he may be a Muslim. but… Scripture tells us the geographic location of the Antichrist’s rise to power in Daniel 11 as I laid out in the article above. it is modern day Turkey/Syria/Lebanon not America.

  7. I understand your thoughts.
    I would say we are on the precipice of a worldwide enforced socialist movement led by a deceiving and manipulating leader who will force the world into a currency free debit system beholden to one central body. It is my opinion that this current U.S. leader fits that description. There is not much we can do except pray that we are renoved out of the ensuing chaos.
    If he gets another term, I think he will take vengeance on those who oppose him. I am confident that you are aware of the system I am referring to, and that you know what to look for. It is entirely possible that things will become worse for christians this year, and that this man will get a second term, whether by vote or fraud.
    Here is a link: http://www.google.ca/#q=muslim+apostate+stepfathers+abortion+atheist+arrogant&hl=en&prmd=imvns&ei=-54TT9WZG6vYiALVyPXJDQ&start=70&sa=N&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=b7cb3b598ba353f6&biw=1140&bih=562

    Notice the search terms.

    • the sad thing is, i fear he just may get another term because our conservative leaders are squabbling among themselves rather than trying to do whatever they can to make sure he’s not re-elected which would include uniting behind one guy. it’s as though they don’t really comprehend the magnitude of the problem we are facing. personally, i believe the Liberals have come too far too fast to leave all that they’ve accomplished up to a free election (i write this as one who is a bit unsure as to whether free elections really do still exist) and with Obama continuing to make Presidential decisions unlawfully and right out in the open, it might cause a man to think that he’s grooming the American public to accept this kind of dictatorial behavior as normal. i wonder, then, what he might attempt before the next election. this is going to be one interesting year. i’ll be sure to look through the search results from the link you sent.

  8. My brother in Christ,
    As you flip through the pages of that link, only one name will appear consistently. The link is comprised of terms from Daniel 11:37.
    Today, my 7 year old daughter brought a book home from school because she thought I should see it.
    It is a book about this current leader. It is not an autobiography. It does reveal that he is indeed MUSLIM. One cannot attend madras as a registered muslim, and claim to be catholic. That is an APOSTATE.
    If the stepfathers are muslim, the child is muslim. If the mother is an ATHEIST, the child is muslim according to islamic law. I am leery of posting the name of the book due to the bill recently passed in congress.
    His followers are loyal and rabid.
    You need to see it. Everyone needs to see it. Am I allowed to post the name of the book? If not, we need to communicate somehow.

    Did you see how he just slapped the American worker and Canada in the face?

  9. sorry for the long delay. you can send the name of the book to my e.mail if you like. and i have to say, i do lean toward Obama being a Muslim, but i do not find any of those terms you used for your search in Daniel 11:37.

    Scripture says the Antichrist won’t rise to power until the ten-nation beast kingdom has again been established.

    Daniel 7:7-8 NASB “After this I kept looking in the night visions, and behold, a fourth beast, dreadful and terrifying and extremely strong; and it had large iron teeth. It devoured and crushed and trampled down the remainder with its feet; and it was different from all the beasts that were before it, and it had ten horns. [8] “While I was contemplating the horns, behold, another horn, a little one, came up among them, and three of the first horns were pulled out by the roots before it; and behold, this horn possessed eyes like the eyes of a man and a mouth uttering great boasts.

    also see Daniel 7:20.

    Obama has already risen to power. not only that, but the ten-nation kingdom hasn’t yet been re-established.

    hey, you may find this interesting if you haven’t already seen it: http://p2alm.com/2012/01/24/the-identity-of-the-antichrists-kingdom-arrive-at-the-conclusion-scripture-is-leading-us-to/

  10. You can fragment the verse and use the definitions given in the verse in Daniel to summarize it with current terminology:
    “Neither shall he honor the gods of his fathers..”= apostate/ “fathers” (plural)- involving more than one paternal influence or stepfathers
    “”Nor the desire of women..”= childbirth/ husband/ family
    “neither..honor any so-called god..”= atheistic
    “..shall exalt himself..”= arrogant

    http://www.mazzaroth.com/ChapterSeven/TenRegionsWTO.htm

    http://books.google.ca/books/about/Barack_Obama.html?id=ZiTBqQ9kg6oC

    Pg. 16

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